A Winn for the Rangers. 140 comments


An emotional Cole Winn learns he is drafted by the Texas Rangers.

 

The Rangers first pick in the draft was a high school pitcher named Cole Winn. You have to love the name.

Yesterday we looked at the pitchers chosen by the Rangers in the Jon Daniels era.

Today, here is a look at the position players selected in Rangers drafts from 2006 to 2015, not looking at 2016 or 2017 since it’s not reasonable to expect draft picks from those two years to have made it already to the major leagues.

C:
Jon Daniels has drafted 26 catchers. One has made it to the major leagues: Brett Nicholas.

1B:
Fourteen first basemen have been drafted. Four have made it to MLB: Chris Davis, Mitch Moreland, Justin Smoak, Nate Freeman.

2B:
Seven drafted, zero made it.

SS:
Daniels has drafted 26 shortstops. Five have made the show: Brad Miller, Drew Robinson, Jerad Hoying, Ryan Rua, Isiah Kiner-Falefa.

3B:
Of the fourteen third basemen drafted by Daniels, four have made it: Matt West, Adam Wilkins, Mike Olt, Joey Gallo.

OF:
In his era, Daniels has drafted 74 outfielders. Eight have made the major leagues: Craig Gentry, Julio Borbon, Joey Butler, Jabari Blash, Ryan Strausborgor, Derek Fisher, Luis Brinson, Nick Williams.

In total, of the 161 position players the Jon Daniels Rangers have drafted, 22 have become major league players.

*****
TODAY’S GAME:

Sean Manaea (5-6, 3.60) vs. Matt Moore (1-5, 7.85)
Game time: 7:05

How the Athletics hit against Moore.
How the Rangers hit against Manaea.

  • Tony Howell

    Not one star out of the bunch. Some one should be held accountable for poor drafting. Rangers spend way to much time and money trying to sign the 12 yr old out of Latin America.

    • JacobMcCandles

      Yeah its pretty bad….and even worse we have shown consistent failure at drafting HS players which is what Winn is. I am certainly not a scout but you are looking at kids and how they perform agst HS competition and trying to translate into what will happen in MLB??

      Not saying you should never draft one, but I will take a college player thats 3-4 yrs older any day! Even if the kid works out, you are talking 3-4 yrs out before a chance of helping.

      • Tony Howell

        I agree the kid that played college ball has already gotten 3-4 yrs minor league experience

    • elkaba

      I think the international talent focus was a smart move back when we were dancing in and out of bankruptcy. But that was then, and we’re still at it.

      • JacobMcCandles

        Yeah and like it or not, most Latin Players are pretty seasoned….live,eat,sleep BB

        • elkaba

          Yeah, like Odor? LOL

          • JacobMcCandles

            Now, now….holster that pitchfork….second hottest Ranger over the last two weeks…… : P

          • elkaba

            Haha!
            I’m just saying we always seem to end up with one of two types of draftees… guys we literally bought off the streets when they were kids and “raised” in some backwater “baseball academy,” and pimple face HS guys from some private school. The former come to the majors with little in the way of critical thinking skills, knowing virtually nothing at all but baseball, and the latter, while “fine men” as Banister would have it, are about as bare knuckle competitive as my Aunt Sally. 😛

          • JacobMcCandles

            Aunt Sally must’ve been a tough broad

          • elkaba

            Powder puff.

  • Tony Howell

    Several players down in the minors playing really well (not pitchers) Ibanez hitting over 300, Hunter Cole hitting 330 for the yr. Tommy Joseph has 13 homers and hitting 260. Willie Calhoun should be up at the majors level now. It would seem there is no place for these kids to play on the Rangers team. The Rangers are pretty much set with position players no room to move up on this team. A bad baseball team that won’t look any further then what they have already, the JD way will never work.

  • elkaba

    So dumb question… What’s the benefit/downside/implication of drafting a HS player who’s already committed to a college? I just don’t get it. Wouldn’t it be better to draft someone who’s already been to college? If we don’t sign a high schooler, if he goes to college, do we just lose the pick? I’ve read up on it, but the more I read the more confused I get. Is it we get a compensatory draft pick next year that’s one slot lower than the slot we picked him at this year? So why would we do that?

    • JacobMcCandles

      Mostly yes to all that….and a big point on another reason on why you stay away from HS players

      • elkaba

        And as bad as we are at developing players, why wouldn’t we just get them from a college that knows how to do it?

        • JacobMcCandles

          Bingo……THE DAILY DOUBLE

        • Rowdy Yates

          After a college education they might be too smart to sign with the Rangers organization.

    • GoRangers23

      From what I heard, the Rangers were absolutely ecstatic that he was still available when it came time for them to make their pick. It seems like they have every intention of signing him. Like you, I have no idea how it all works, but maybe they intend to wait for him?

      • elkaba

        That’s my question! I don’t think waiting for him is an option. I think we only have until this July to sign him. And if we don’t sign him he goes back in the draft next year. What happens if he goes to college?

        • Tony Howell

          Can be drafted by another team in the future

          • elkaba

            So why would we draft him? Is it because we think we can sign him even though he’s committed to a college?

          • Tony Howell

            Good question, usually a first round pick sighs a lot of money getting thrown around. But not guaranteed to sign.

          • Rowdy Yates

            A fair # of kids who commit to a university change their mind if they go high and get Big $$$. They must think they can get him to sign.

        • GoRangers23

          Then I guess the Rangers draft this year is a total FAIL!

          • elkaba

            Not if they sign him, but I just don’t understand taking the risk! He must be the next Nolan Ryan or else somebody doesn’t realize we need pitching help like NOW.

          • GoRangers23

            I am just wondering why the fourteen teams ahead of us didn’t want him. Hopefully it is because of the college thing, and not because they didn’t like what they saw.

          • JacobMcCandles

            The kid looks great but he is a High schooler

          • GoRangers23

            Yes, that’s what I meant. If we don’t sign him, I guess it is a total fail. Hopefully they know what they are doing…….😐. If their track record is any indication, we are probably sunk.

          • JacobMcCandles

            We would get another pk next yr..but it would be a set back

          • GoRangers23

            Yeah, it would! We need help sooner, rather than later.

    • Tony Howell

      In 2009 Rangers had the 15 pick they chose Matt Purke (( passed on Trout) Purke did not sign. In 2010 they were given comp pick #15 for not signing Purke and drafted Jake Skole (who ever he was).

      • elkaba

        I know we passed on Trout. Why heads didn’t roll at that point I’ll never know.

        • JacobMcCandles

          Maybe heads did roll….JD fired everyone

          • elkaba

            Did he fire any scouts?

          • JacobMcCandles

            Scouting director…but actually I was being a tad facetious that he has fired everyone so he should bear the burden now

        • Rowdy Yates

          I think Trout had also committed to a college so maybe that scared ’em off. But evidently didn’t feel the same in this case. Or maybe they just had crappy scouts. The Rangers passed on Trout but so did a lot of teams if they had #15 pick.

          • Tony Howell

            We need our scouting department to be light yrs ahead of all others. I hope all the other teams Miss ever time.

      • JacobMcCandles

        Since I post mostly pro Ryan stuff…Purke was Nolans influence

  • GoRangers23
    • JacobMcCandles

      Enjoy the peace…go have a nice lunch and take a nap

      • GoRangers23

        I’m already about to lose my mind. I don’t think I will make it to Thursday morning. 😂. I have too much painting to do in the Star Wars bathroom to take a nap, but lunch with son number one is a definite possibility. 😁

        • JacobMcCandles

          You see Solo yet? Not very good

          • GoRangers23

            No. I’m not sure if I will ever see it. Maybe when it comes out on DVD. I just think they are going too far with stuff like that. Going back in time and replacing an iconic character with a different actor to portrait him as a young person is where I draw the line. I think it’s stupid. Disney is trying to milk it for all it’s worth and they are ruining it. Disney has made a lot of questionable decisions in the last few years.

          • JacobMcCandles

            Agree 100%…didn’t like Rogue either…did enjoy the last episode that had Mark Hamill

          • GoRangers23

            I didn’t like Rogue One at all when I first saw it, but when we watched it the second time, I liked it. It was hard to get over all the main characters dying though.

          • JacobMcCandles

            Part that has been bad for me is the casting has been so weak,,,,the black guy in Rogue was terrible, guy that played Vader was terrible, the guy that played Solo is bad….best thing about Solo is it gets into Chewbaccas history a little

          • GoRangers23

            Forest Whitaker? The guy who played Saw Gerrera? Vader….You mean Hayden Christensen?….yeah, he couldn’t act, but he was a cute little fella. 😄

          • JacobMcCandles

            Hayden

  • GoRangers23

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    • JacobMcCandles

      That book Nadel is holding was written by knuckleball throwing RA Docket who pitched for us but had major success when he left….go figure, lol

      • JacobMcCandles

        Dickey…cell phone…geez

        • elkaba

          LOL, I was going to say, “Who the heck is Docket?”

      • dearmidol

        He won a Cy Young Award.

        • JacobMcCandles

          Sure did

          • JacobMcCandles

            You would know better….don’t think the Rangers have ever had a Cy Young winner….think back in the 70s Ferguson Jenkins was close

  • JacobMcCandles

    All five draft picks are High school players…..so be patient until 2023!! Whats worse and perhaps this a leap…but it tells me that JD feels secure in his job!!??

    • calntom

      Telling information on what the real plan is. More like 2021 or 2022. Rangers know they will sell plenty of tickets in 2020 regardless of what they put on the field.

      • elkaba

        Not to me. Put a good team on the field and we’ll talk.

      • JacobMcCandles

        HS players won’t be ready that soon

  • JacobMcCandles

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3yRv5Jg5TI

    Here ya go…GO..posted this two yrs ago……impossible to watch without laughing……11 million people watched

    • GoRangers23

      Yep, she had her 15 minutes of fame.

  • elkaba

    Round 3…high schooler, another short stop (just what we need more of… not)
    Round 4… skinny high schooler from Forney (should go ahead to college and fatten up. could go 1st round later)
    Round 5… another high school infielder, 5’10”, 150 lbs (seriously?)
    Round 6… unranked RH pitcher, out of jr. college, went in 32nd round as a high schooler

    Sigh…

  • dearmidol

    Jake, to answer your question from earlier, correct, the Rangers have not had a Cy Young winner. In fact, they are the only team in the American League not to have one.

    Boston: 7
    Baltimore: 6
    New York, Detroit, Cleveland, Oakland: 5
    Toronto, Kansas City, Minnesota: 4
    Chicago: 3
    Los Angeles, Seattle, Milwaukee (when they were in the AL): 2
    Tampa Bay, Houston (as an AL team): 1
    Texas: 0

    In the National League:

    Los Angeles (with one in Brooklyn): 12
    Philadelphia, Atlanta (with one in Milwaukee): 7
    Arizona, New York, Chicago: 5
    San Diego: 4
    San Francisco, St Louis, Washington (with on in Montreal): 3
    Pittsburgh, Houston (while in NL): 2
    Miami, Cincinnati, Colorado: 0

  • JacobMcCandles

    After cleaning up the vomit on the puter when 5 consecutive HS players,we’re taken the cleanup is over only to get sick again…8 picks..5 RH pitchers and THREE SS…good freakin ……

    • WhoKnowscs

      Joe Nathan was originally a shortstop, he turned out to be a pretty good pitcher.

      • calntom

        I was originally a SS

        • JacobMcCandles

          I was born a rich man

    • calntom

      Farm system was notably short on pitching and middle IF

  • GoRangers23
    • JacobMcCandles

      Another great JD move

    • calntom

      meh

  • TD30
    • FlappingGums

      Thank you for this lineup, TD! 😀

  • JacobMcCandles

    Boy Seager loves TX teams…..3 run HR off Keuchel in the first.

  • JacobMcCandles

    Grieve is so stupid

  • elkaba

    That’s what speed in CF gets you.

  • WhoKnowscs

    Dave . . . it was a fly ball, caught like plenty of other fly balls.

  • JacobMcCandles

    Grieve is either senile or BB stupid like I have always thought…..he says the shift got Gallo…..yes the shift was on, but the ball was hit right where the 2B would normally play…….it should not be a surprise that this org stunk his whole tenure….yeah he is a loveable dude,and he tells good Ranger historical stories, and sells a mean brownie,,,,but thats it

  • WhoKnowscs

    Manaea vs Moore always looked like a loss.

    • JacobMcCandles

      Large wager on Oak tonight

    • WhoKnowscs

      But then again anyone vs Moore looks like a loss off the bat.

  • WhoKnowscs

    Dave . . . Moore never settles in. He usually has at least 1 scoreless inning.

  • WhoKnowscs

    We should have given lincecum a chance to start over Moore.

  • elkaba

    It can’t blow up on him Raymond. The Rangers didn’t bring any matches.

  • elkaba

    Chirinos finds his swing at last.

  • GoRangers23

    ROBBYYYYYYY!

  • WhoKnowscs

    It’s a “Here’s my bat, ain’t it pretty?” game.

    • Rowdy Yates

      “This is my rifle, this is my gun.
      This is for fighting, this is for fun.”

  • Rowdy Yates

    Well, arrvd just in time to see the mighty Profar do some good!

  • GoRangers23

    Go Jurickson!!

  • grumpyderfsmagic8ball

    Is DD having more fun?

  • WhoKnowscs

    Man this pitcher is just so dull.

  • WhoKnowscs

    Stop running against Lucroy . . . he’s not as bad as he was with us.

    • Rowdy Yates

      Seems like 4 or 5 Rangers in a row tossed out attempting to steal, though I’ve missed a buncha innings the last few games.

  • Rowdy Yates

    Great job Choo. Particularly after the bad strike call by the ump.

  • GoRangers23

    CHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

  • WhoKnowscs

    New ball game.

  • Rowdy Yates

    Wow, just saw DD without the helmet on. I think that yellow cockatoo haircut could be the reason for his slump.

  • WhoKnowscs

    BELTRE!!!!!

  • TD30

    Beltre’s back!!

  • GoRangers23

    Go Beltre!!!

  • dearmidol

    Just got to the TV to see that. Awesome.

  • Rowdy Yates

    So, the old guy with no power now has twice as many HRs as Odor.

    • dearmidol

      Yes he does.

  • Gregor_S

    The amazing thing about Beltre is his slumps last about 2 at bats. He’s able to make adjustments that quickly.

    One of the amazing things, anyway.

    • dearmidol

      I am going to miss him.

      • Gregor_S

        As we all will. I wish there were a way for the Rangers to trade him and then sign him next year when he’ll be a free agent. If they weren’t obligated to Choo maybe they would. They need AB’s presence in the clubhouse.

        • Rowdy Yates

          Adrian’s got plenty of money. He wants a World Series ring. I expect he’d play for free for one. And that’s not going to happen with the Rangers

          • Gregor_S

            I know. If he were to get one this year after being traded THEN he might be over it and be willing to come back as a Ranger. Too many long shot contingencies though.

          • Rowdy Yates

            That would be sweet for the Rangers and us. But I expect if he got a WS ring he’d either retire or stay with the team that actually got him a ring. Wouldn’t you? Pretty sure I would in his shoes.

          • Gregor_S

            That’s what I thought Darvish would do. Of course he didn’t get the ring and he was mostly responsible for that, so he went elsewhere. I’m sure AB wouldn’t mess up if he got to the WS though.

      • TD30

        I will cry like a baby when he goes, just like I did when Michael Young was traded. I know it’s business, but it breaks my heart. 💔

        • GoRangers23

          Yep!

  • grumpyderfsmagic8ball

    Kaboom

  • TD30

    I like these As pitchers. Good for HR derby.

  • WhoKnowscs

    GALLO bought Globe Life.

  • Rowdy Yates

    After that really ugly throw out on the botched steal Gallo needed that. WTG!

  • WhoKnowscs

    All 7 runs provided by homer.

  • GoRangers23

    JOEYYYYYYY! Keep em coming fellas! 😁

  • JacobMcCandles

    Is the Roogie Boogie back? Batting over .300 the last 10 days…only player with two hits…..Choo extends his streaks….good stuff

    • WhoKnowscs

      He’s got about a season of production to keep it up.

    • WhoKnowscs

      IKF is the backup and Odor knows it.

      • JacobMcCandles

        I love Alfalfa his avg has dropped to .240

        • dearmidol

          Which is still about 20 points higher than Odor.

          • JacobMcCandles

            Be willing to wager that Roogies avg is higher at the end of season

          • possumrld

            Roogie has slowly been improving his entire game, and there is not denying that.

    • grumpyderfsmagic8ball

      Nope..bunts and no HRs.

      • JacobMcCandles

        It will take a lot to get out of the Rounder dungeon

        • WhoKnowscs

          Been so bad for so long, he’s got to start contributing when it matters.

          • JacobMcCandles

            What’s long….two yrs ago he was a stud😎

  • WhoKnowscs

    Don’t poke the Khris Davis.

  • Rowdy Yates

    Looked like the Rangers of old. Late scoring binge, and good relief to close out the win. Way to go Rangers!

  • GoRangers23

    I kept trying to will Adrian to blot the sweat off of his face, but it just didn’t happen. Apparently it didn’t bother him as much as it bothered me

  • GoRangers23

    We won!!! YAY!

  • JacobMcCandles

    Kela monster….true bright spot

  • dearmidol

    This was a truly enjoyable game.

    • WhoKnowscs

      well for 3 innings.

      • dearmidol

        Yep, but those were three good ones.

  • GoRangers23

    Bartolo is close to the milestone of striking out 2,500.

  • possumrld

    We have nothing to compare JD’s “track record too in this article, Kev. But even so, it doesn’t at all seem like an impressive record at all. Or maybe “less than impressive” would be the better way to put it.