Trade Jose? 28 comments


Bleacher Report had an article on the one off-season nightmare each team should avoid. For the Texas Rangers, it’s “missing the opportunity to sell high on Jose Leclerc.”

They said: “With the value of controllable late-innings relievers at an all-time high, the Rangers have an extremely valuable trade chip in Jose Leclerc.

“The 24-year-old is controllable through the 2022 season and won’t be arbitration-eligible for the first time until next offseason. He’s also fresh off a dominant season, having posted a 1.56 ERA, 0.85 WHIP and 13.3 strikeouts per nine innings with 12 saves and 15 holds in 59 appearances.

“There’s nothing in his peripherals to suggest he’s headed for significant regression, but relievers are a fickle bunch. It might behoove the Rangers to sell high now with a rebuild looming.”

Basically they are acknowledging the obvious: The Rangers aren’t going to be competitive throughout the duration of his contract, so why not get the most out of their most marketable guy?

Makes sense to me.

  • GoRangers23

    I kind of hope that doesn’t happen because whether we are rebuilding or not, it still seriously stinks to be ahead at the end of the game, game after game, and then have your late inning relievers lose the entire game. That is so frustrating! That makes even me not want to tune in for every game. I would think that if they want people in the seats, they better at least put a team out there who can win some of the games.

  • calntom

    A team does not trade their number 1 starter and 4 or their top 5 pen arms and expect to be competitive the next season(s). The BP is going to be a disaster this year regardless, though I would expect that we will see several arms from the farm vying for spots along with a couple of signings by JD to bolster the chances of flipping one or two of them midseason or at the dealine. The good thing about the farm hands is they can ship them back and forth from Nashville/Frisco as performance, rest and other needs dictate. I hope they plan on carrying 13 arms as they are gonna need them all.
    Trade Leclerc: Sure, if the return involves a potential starter that is controlled through 2023-24 and more prospects. Leclerc is going to carry a nice price tag. Higher than Kela for sure. We will see……

  • calntom

    Kevin, are you coming over to the dark side?

    Basically they are acknowledging the obvious: The Rangers aren’t going to be competitive throughout the duration of his contract, so why not get the most out of their most marketable guy?

    — “Makes sense to me.” —

    • dearmidol

      As far as closers are concerned, I am a believer they are a dime a dozen. Now, that’s overstating it a bit. But the thing about closers is there’s always another one lurking.

  • Rowdy Yates

    Back home late last night from babysitting the pre-kindergarten & 1st grader grand daughters in Albuquerque and then babysitting DW’s 98 yr father with the broken hip in Denver over the past week. Amazing how much alike they were at 5, 7 & 98 yrs old. Denver to Austin flt supposed to leave at 2:20 and didn’t leave until just after 6:30 pm because of snow and sleet. Boy howdy it’s good to be home! Need to review y’alls posts the last couple days and see what’s happening in Rangers Land.

    • calntom

      Been some good conversations overall.

    • GoRangers23

      I’m glad you’re back safe and sound. 😄

  • CrazyEd

    Sure, maybe, all depends. If the Rangers can get a “haul” of good solid upper A and AA prospects it would be really hard to turn down a trade. It would have to be a haul though.

    • calntom

      Just talked with the oldest. He said his 1st crossing the line lasted about 24 hours, lol.

      • JacobMcCandles

        🍺😄

      • JacobMcCandles

        Did you ask him what King Neptune look like.

        • calntom

          No, but I will

  • JacobMcCandles

    Some good points made by cal and Go…trade anything if it will bring a SP back. And Go brought up the demeaning of losing games due to a weak BP……And Howdy Rowdy

    For movie watchers….Alpha dog is a nice outdoors flick

  • calntom

    I started to touch on MLB scouting strength later last evening. I will, admit now that my knowledge is weak in this field. The only scout I ever had lengthy conversation with was Jim Hendry.
    The Yankees know who they want and what they are obtaining in a trade. They have quite an extensive lists of scouts and I assume Hendry is still in the fold as a special assistant to Cashman and as a special assignment scout.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:New_York_Yankees_scouts

    Article from 2016
    https://www.fangraphs.com/tht/scouting-the-scouting-directors-part-1/

    https://www.fangraphs.com/tht/scouting-the-scouting-directors-part-2/

    • JacobMcCandles

      You see my post on the Astros approach

      • calntom

        Yes, video

  • elkaba

    I don’t really care who they trade or keep. In terms of enjoying the coming season, what will make the difference to me isn’t wins and losses or which player comes or goes, it’s more about whether or not I can see a plan for the future taking shape. We may be at the bottom or somewhere in the middle, but if we’re showing signs of heading in the right direction, I’m on board. Any more of what we’ve seen in the last 3-4 seasons, I may have to start watching… paint dry. (I was going to say golf, but even paint is better than that. 🙂

    • JacobMcCandles

      Better than soccer fer sure😄😎

      • Rowdy Yates

        Saw your comment on Big 12 championship game. UT’s capable of losing to Kansas next week so they’re not a lock and when two fairly evenly matched teams like OU and UT play twice it’s pretty hard for one to win both times. Given UTs injuries I’d bet on OU winning that game though I’ll be rooting UT.

        • JacobMcCandles

          Heck OU has to beat W Virginia…just make a good game

        • Nathan Whitten

          Capable for sure.Kansas has not been the pushover we’ve seen most seasons. Texas should win, but stranger things have happened. And UT will be using their (pretty good) backup. Buechele has good bloodlines. His dad is one of the unusually large number of fine 3B that have graced a Rangers uniform.

  • calntom

    More rumblings from Rosenthal…from MLB TRADE RUMORS

    Even though the Rangers’ rotation is perilously thin, the rebuilding club would likely trade its top starter, left-hander Mike Minor, for the right offer, Rosenthal suggests. Minor’s drawing interest on the heels of his first season in Texas, which signed him to a three-year, $28MM guarantee last December. When he joined the Rangers, Minor was coming off an excellent season as a full-time reliever for the Royals, but he returned to a starting role in 2018 and posted a 4.18 ERA/4.43 FIP with 7.57 K/9 and 2.18 BB/9 over 157 innings (28 starts). Minor has an affordable $19MM left on his contract, though his 10-team no-trade clause could block some prospective suitors from acquiring him.

    • JacobMcCandles

      Well you gotta listen to all offers…but Minor is a keeper…and we do have to field a team and put butts in seats…Minor,Volquez,Fister,Jurado,plus one signing at least prevents embarrasment

      • calntom

        I dont think they have resigned Fister yet.
        Smyly might be ready by opening day, hard to say.
        I think Mendez is out of options. If so, count him in.
        They can also run Sampson back and forth from Nashville.
        They still need another as you said and a couple of fallbacks like last year. i.e. (Gallardo, Colon) in case they trade someone or a couple go down with injury.

        • JacobMcCandles

          Forgot about Smyly..good call. Foster is in a option yr and they did not say No

          • calntom

            Fister option was declined and he is not on the roster. Free agent as of November 2nd

          • Nathan Whitten

            I think I saw that he signed with someone. Maybe I dreamt it, I think he was worth keeping. If I was right, then at least one other team did, too.

    • Rowdy Yates

      Thx for the Rosenthal info. Don’t agree with him about trading Minor and not sure I even believe the Rangers would be shopping him. As Jake says “he’s a keeper” and particularly in the situation they’re in. Where are they going to find someone as good or better for what they’re paying him? Just doesn’t make sense to me.