Oakland to start a reliever. 74 comments


 

So, how has the state of bullpenning evolved? Oakland is starting a reliever today in their wild card game against New York, and is planning on it being a bullpen game.

In their do-or-die game, the Athletics are turning it over to their bullpen.

It might be because all five of the pitchers they started the season in their rotation with are injured. But the Athletics are going to treat the wild card game as if it’s a spring training game, or just another Sunday afternoon game in July. I wonder if they are planning to give Khris Davis a day off?

Such is the state of pitching in 2018. Interchangeable drill bits.

So much so that last night in the Cubs-Rockies wild card game, the announcers were shocked both starters were still in the game in the fifth inning.

It was 1-0, both pitchers were cruising, both still had plenty in the tank, and it’s an oddity?

Must be nice to have a job where your boss expects you to work only a couple of hours a day, twice a week.

What’s strange is that the Astros won it last year with a conventional pitching staff. A rotation of quality starters. Yet somehow that’s passé?

Amazing.

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  • CrazyEd

    I’m not surprised. The BP is Oakland’s strength. It’s the smart move. If the rotation was their strength, they’d play the conventional game, but it’s not, so BP it is. Starting pitching has become so expensive, only those teams willing to pay the luxury tax (competitive balance tax), and other penalties for exceeding the spending cap can afford to buy them. The other alternative is to develop most of the staff themselves and augment through trades/purchases. Just one top of the rotation pitcher can cost a team close to ten percent of the salary cap. Exceeding the salary cap has a whole host of penalties. They are too complicated to try to explain, feel free to look them up.

    • JacobMcCandles

      Agree 100 % onBMM,

  • elkaba

    Necessity is the mother…
    Used to be teams started the season with five good-to-decent starters, at least two of them being good enough to rely on in a post season run. The extras got shifted to the pen for the playoffs. Nowadays there just aren’t enough good pitchers to do that for every team, every year, so those starters who any team would be willing to take to the playoffs are worth their weight in gold. In fact, they command the kind of dollars that leaves some teams simply not able to afford even one, let alone two or three. And it’s left us with the lopsided league results we have today- a handful of teams at the top all year, a bunch of middling wannabes an arm or two shy of a deep runt and everyone else fighting over scraps at the bottom.

    It’s an untenable situation for baseball’s survival and for one glaring reason: the only way to affordably get good enough these days is to grow your own arms, and that takes years of bottom dwelling to accomplish. So bit by bit, year after year, fans peel away growing tired of supporting perennial losers, businesses grow tired of shelling out more and more bucks buying suites and books of season tickets and baseball gets further and further away from anything approaching competitive balance and a healthy fan base..

    • calntom

      Solid Elk. Good read.
      I expect the Rangers will come out of this rebuild in a few years with 2 or 3 starters that can make a deep run if JD stays the plotted course. I don’t expect much next year, thus there will be no disappointment.

      When the next venue is completed, the Rangers are not going to have any problem selling suites or seats, regardless of the product on the field though I would expect a close to .500 club by then.

      Of course there will still be a lot of teams with less cash that will continue to bask in the predicament you have described so well.

      • elkaba

        I’m not nearly as confident as you are about selling fans on sticking with a .500 product, at least not long term. The sport is hemorrhaging fans, and as Kinsler infamously stated, this isn’t exactly baseball country to begin with. Sooner or later, and regardless of the incredible (shrinking) palaces they build to house the game, there will come a reckoning, at least for many expansion teams, perennial losers and those teams who after long years of rebuilding produce less than stellar results. (My guess would be that the reckoning will really hit home when it’s time to negotiate the next TV deals.)

        Beyond competitive imbalance, with all the shifting, challenging calls and pitching changes games are taking FOREVER to play. The league is regulating and attempting to constrict every second of actual play, limiting mound visits, putting pitchers on a clock, and in essence, taking out a lot of the excitement and spontaneity the game has always thrived on. No more rough and ready base running. (And while I think it’s a good idea to limit injuries to fielders and catchers, I DO NOT think it’s a good idea to micromanage how one arrives at a base or waste 5 minutes deciding if the runner lost touch with the bag for a nanosecond.) No more manager arguments or dirt-kicking melt downs. No more fist fights on the mound. And soon, if they don’t stop solving all the baseball problems they’ve created by solving other problems, no more exciting sport for fans to bother to go witness.

        One of my favorite sayings is, “The solution to any problem always creates new problems.” Apart from a growing and obvious lack of anything approaching competitive balance despite all attempts to correct the financial mismatch between markets, I look at how many ways the game is changing, and I’m not so certain how long it can endure being constantly “fixed.”

        • JacobMcCandles

          Sounds like we have changed our mind on IR…..welcome aboard

        • JacobMcCandles

          Hamilton said this was not a BB town

  • GoRangers23

    Anyone need a managers job? It seems that there are several to be had. Refresh.

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  • JacobMcCandles

    Hire Buck as GM, JD can be the President…..Buck can hire his own MGR

    Though I will be rooting agst the Skanks tonight…..Severino is top shelf

  • JacobMcCandles

    Friday afternoon BB…..Kluber vs Verlander…whoowee…..doesn’t get any better

  • JacobMcCandles

    Twins fire Molitor….would hire him in a NY minute

    • dearmidol

      Agree. But I don’t think he is a Jon Daniels type.

      • JacobMcCandles

        You mean he is a winner

  • CrazyEd

    I’m officially bonkers …. Spent a half hour trying to figure out who the Rangers were going to add and who the are going to drop from the 40. I gave up. Glad it ain’t my job.

    • JacobMcCandles

      Can’t speak for the 26-40… as far as the 25…DD is the discard

      • CrazyEd

        I see that as a distinct possibility. Another one is one of the corner outfielders/DH also via trade. Choo is going to be tough, even in the R’s eat part of his contract he had 10 and 5 rights so he’ll have to go someplace he wants to be. Calhoun is on thin ice after reporting 25 pounds over weight and then copping an attitude about not making the big club. He made matters worse by dogging it in RR until the finally benched him. Woke him up, but didn’t do much to endear him to the powers that be. Rua is probably going to be dropped as well as Alberto.

        • JacobMcCandles

          IMO.we need to take a longer look at Calhoun….I think we need to eat most of Choos contract and get a pitching prospect for him

          • CrazyEd

            A lot is going to depend on how well Calhoun follows his marching orders this winter. He’s been told to lose weight and work on his defense and base running. If he loses the weight and does one of the other two, he’s probably safe. Miss on two out of the three and probably not. Especially the weight part. You know management was not happy when Tocci was playing LF and Calhoun was sitting.

          • calntom

            Yep, figure out how to buy one or two for 10 mil

  • CrazyEd

    Confused, need somebody to explain what this means. Why are the Rangers recalling players on 2 Oct.??? There has to be a reason. Help!!!!

    Date
    Transaction

    10/2/18
    Texas Rangers recalled RHP Jonathan Hernandez from Frisco RoughRiders.

    10/2/18
    Texas Rangers recalled C Jose Trevino from Frisco RoughRiders.

    10/2/18
    Texas Rangers recalled RHP Ricardo Rodriguez from Nashville Sounds.

    10/2/18
    Texas Rangers recalled LHP Brett Martin from Frisco RoughRiders.

    10/2/18
    Texas Rangers recalled LHP Joe Palumbo from Frisco RoughRiders.

    • JacobMcCandles

      Not sure is it to put them on the 40? Options?

      • CrazyEd

        They are already on the 40 and I don’t see this group being optioned. Maybe one or two of them but not Hernandez, Trevino or Palumbo. Don’t see the Rangers trading those three either.

        • JacobMcCandles

          I am in your boat

  • JacobMcCandles

    @caltom….how much further is Lake Fork from Dallas as compared to Tawakoni

    • JacobMcCandles

      Grandparents and Scary buried close to Mineola

    • CrazyEd

      Can’t help you. Have been to Fork, but from Killeen. Never been to Tawakoni.

      • JacobMcCandles

        Mrs S brother was a Sgt in Artillery stationed in Killeen….retired after 18 yrs….spent time on the 38th parallel

    • calntom

      Fork is 25 minutes due East of the 2 mile bridge at Twok

      • JacobMcCandles

        Cheaper you think?

        • calntom

          Rooms are more costly at Fork, if that is what you are referring to.

  • JacobMcCandles

    The Chicken littles that cry the demise of the countries fav past time, continue to be wrong….this is the first yr in 14 that attendance has dropped. There are several HOFmers playing and the largest infusion of young talent in decades. You wanna enjoy the game stop trying to change it. The game is not too long, get rid of failed IR, sit back and grab a dog and a cold brew and enjoy

    • CrazyEd

      MLB is crazy worrying about the length of game and pace of play while implementing the time waster that is IR. In particular I don’t like the nickle dime the guy was safe but he lifted his foot 1/8″ off the bag after 20 seconds bs. I do like your idea of a dog and a cold brew. Think I’ll do the brew part right now.

      • JacobMcCandles

        Haha…more they try to change it The worse it gets

  • TD30
    • JacobMcCandles

      Surprising Gregorious is ready

  • JacobMcCandles

    No where man doesn’t know where he is going….isn’t he a bit like you and me

  • TD30

    As much as this hurts…Go🤬 As!!!⚾️⚾️⚾️

    • JacobMcCandles

      Now TD….can’t hurt too much….lol Feel better as the Sooners destroy Bevos

  • TD30

    Well crap

  • JacobMcCandles

    Thanks Trumper…recouped all my investments in 1 yr that I lost in 8 yrs of Obumma…….hehe

  • JacobMcCandles

    Huge SO by Severino…no hitter in tact

  • dearmidol

    Just got home from work. Good to see another close game. I find it hard to believe Oakland can beat New York, but you never know.

    • JacobMcCandles

      Post season BB is the best Kev

      • dearmidol

        It is.

        • JacobMcCandles

          Yanks have dodged some bullets

          • dearmidol

            They are lucky.

          • JacobMcCandles

            Torn…love to see the As win but bet on Skanks

  • dearmidol

    This is their inning.

  • dearmidol

    If the Yankees get out of this.

  • dearmidol

    Today I shot two commercials for TexasLending.com. I think they will be really funny. I’ll post them when we get them edited.

    • JacobMcCandles

      You get Peyton? LOL

      • dearmidol

        Ha, no.

        • JacobMcCandles

          Don’t know the biz like you…but he is very personable

          • dearmidol

            He’s great.

  • dearmidol

    Khris Davis just has to imagine the pitcher has a Rangers uniform.

  • JacobMcCandles

    Huge

  • dearmidol

    Wow. Yankees are clutch.

    • JacobMcCandles

      Till they face Houston…LOL

      • dearmidol

        One base hit would have made a huge difference last year. The Astros weren’t that much better.

        • JacobMcCandles

          Tough series

          • dearmidol

            It was great. That series and the World Series were amazing baseball watching.

          • JacobMcCandles

            That WS was tremendous

          • dearmidol

            Unless you were a fan of Japanese pitchers.

          • JacobMcCandles

            Lo

    • Rowdy Yates

      Wish they were klutz.

      • JacobMcCandles

        Did you say you are going to the Horn.Sooner game

        • Rowdy Yates

          Nope … oldest son and oldest grandson. Grandson’s 1st time. Sitting upper deck, low row 3 seats from the middle where the orange starts. Should be a blast for grandson.

          I’ve never been to Horns/OU game.

          • JacobMcCandles

            Been to several……Sooners are 2-1 in games I saw…..Just finished reading Bud Wilkinson’s story

          • dearmidol

            Is that this weekend? Now that my daughter is no longer at UT I don’t pay attention. Last four years we had a full house of 15 girls. It was crazy and fun. I will miss that.

          • JacobMcCandles

            Sat at 1100am

  • JacobMcCandles

    Best defensive 3B in MLB

    • dearmidol

      And a damn good hitter.

  • Rowdy Yates

    Want the A’s to win this game but not unhappy to see Rodney suck.

  • JacobMcCandles

    Cha ching on Yanks…I’m on a roll!!